WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.118 --> 00:00:03.210 CISE IT | Edgar Huertas: And I'm going to open it up. 2 00:00:03.880 --> 00:00:11.899 CISE IT | Edgar Huertas: I usually give it about a minute or 2. See, when you see that number of attendees. Look, it looks like it's steady at a certain number. Then you can start. 3 00:04:50.730 --> 00:04:54.100 CISE IT | Edgar Huertas: I'm Sharma, so you can begin 4 00:04:58.410 --> 00:04:59.090 CISE IT | Edgar Huertas: Gotcha. 5 00:05:15.820 --> 00:05:20.820 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: Welcome everyone we are going to have the cyber training webinar. 6 00:05:21.050 --> 00:05:29.649 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: Now we were waiting for all of you to sign in, and probably, you know, several more will be signing in 7 00:05:29.740 --> 00:05:30.890 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: soon. 8 00:05:31.060 --> 00:05:37.080 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: So the cyber training webinar is, you know, offered by the office of advanced cyber infrastructure 9 00:05:37.654 --> 00:05:42.130 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: the 3 of us cognizant program directors that you can reach out to 10 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:46.959 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: when you want to know more about it, more about the solicitation. 11 00:05:47.050 --> 00:05:49.500 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: So I am Sharmista Bhaktisan. 12 00:05:50.140 --> 00:05:53.289 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: My co-presenters are Sheikh Gafur 13 00:05:53.370 --> 00:06:03.830 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: and Marlon Pierce, and Jenny is also here to answer your Q. And a questions that you may have later on. 14 00:06:03.880 --> 00:06:07.500 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: Panelists are Tom Goldbrunson and Wen Mentung. 15 00:06:07.710 --> 00:06:25.140 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: We are going to talk about the solicitation. Nsf. 2, 3, 5, 2, 0. The deadline for the proposals will be January 16, th 2025. So throughout this webinar, I think in the end you can ask a lot of questions, and we will give you answers. 16 00:06:25.260 --> 00:06:27.199 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: and we will get started. 17 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:28.390 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: No. 18 00:06:29.790 --> 00:06:34.819 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: So our goals are to orient you about the solicitation. 19 00:06:36.250 --> 00:06:43.119 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: and we encourage in efscore jurisdictions, schools in efscore jurisdictions to send us proposals. 20 00:06:43.340 --> 00:06:46.580 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: We will summarize the cyber training program and its goals 21 00:06:46.820 --> 00:06:51.529 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: and present the review criteria, and of course go through the question. Answer session. 22 00:06:54.840 --> 00:07:01.080 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: Our office has several opportunities of funding. We fall under learning and workforce development. 23 00:07:01.210 --> 00:07:07.849 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: You can orient yourself by going to our website and look at what we offer in terms of advanced computing. 24 00:07:07.880 --> 00:07:12.450 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: networking and cybersecurity software and data Ci 25 00:07:12.500 --> 00:07:19.548 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: and other kind of strategic investments. We will touch upon one today. That's nair NAIR. R. 26 00:07:21.320 --> 00:07:31.510 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: The cyber infrastructure. The way we define is a set of resources, tools, methods and services for advanced computation. 27 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:34.889 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: large scale data handling and analytics. 28 00:07:34.960 --> 00:07:41.929 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: networking and security for large-scale systems that collectively enable potentially transformative 29 00:07:41.960 --> 00:07:45.369 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: fundamental science and engineering research and 30 00:07:45.640 --> 00:07:46.890 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: education 31 00:07:48.700 --> 00:07:55.039 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: communities. We serve are Ci professionals. Ci contributors, ci users. 32 00:07:55.370 --> 00:08:02.529 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: Ci professionals are those who deploy, manage and collaboratively support the effective use of research. Ci 33 00:08:03.030 --> 00:08:04.960 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: Ci contributors 34 00:08:05.090 --> 00:08:11.230 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: will be the community of computational data and domain scientists and engineers who research 35 00:08:11.290 --> 00:08:15.779 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: and develop new capabilities, approaches and methods. 36 00:08:15.930 --> 00:08:28.909 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: Ci users will belong to the community of domain scientists and engineers who effectively exploit advanced Ci capabilities and methods for research. 37 00:08:31.110 --> 00:08:40.130 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: So we have several Ci related programs. This is just to give you a highlight of what we have and where cyber training 38 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:40.980 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: is 39 00:08:41.880 --> 00:08:48.500 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: situated. So there are, you know, 4 of them Cssi, Osc. Core Skype and cyber training. 40 00:08:49.060 --> 00:08:58.680 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: You need to go to the solicitation to get more details on them. But Cssi focuses on developing software or data. Ci Oec core 41 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:02.770 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: focuses on research that will enable future Ci. 42 00:09:02.920 --> 00:09:06.610 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: Skype focuses on fostering cip careers. 43 00:09:06.670 --> 00:09:08.365 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: Our new solicitation. 44 00:09:09.150 --> 00:09:12.970 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: revised solicitation with a new deadline will be coming up for Skype 45 00:09:13.710 --> 00:09:19.950 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: and cyber training, of course, is focused on providing training to the 3 communities that I mentioned. 46 00:09:21.410 --> 00:09:29.190 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: So if you're not familiar with Cssi or Skype, the definition is Cssi is cyber infrastructure for sustained scientific innovation. 47 00:09:29.310 --> 00:09:35.090 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: and Skype is strengthening the cyber infrastructure, professionals, ecosystem. 48 00:09:37.770 --> 00:09:39.549 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: What is our motivation? 49 00:09:39.770 --> 00:09:45.610 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: We know that advanced Ci has a transformative impact on a variety of scientific research domains 50 00:09:45.870 --> 00:09:53.520 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: the research workforce benefits from innovative discipline, appropriate training and curriculum development. 51 00:09:53.950 --> 00:09:59.520 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: And there is a need to foster broad adoption of Ci resources, tools and methods by diverse 52 00:09:59.690 --> 00:10:01.400 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: research communities. 53 00:10:03.370 --> 00:10:04.930 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: What are our goals? 54 00:10:05.500 --> 00:10:06.639 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: No, we 55 00:10:07.170 --> 00:10:10.369 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: in cyber training, we prepare to 56 00:10:11.032 --> 00:10:21.679 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: prepared to nurture and grow the national Scientific research workforce for creating, utilizing and supporting advanced cyber infrastructure to enable and potentially transform 57 00:10:22.270 --> 00:10:29.869 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: fundamental science and engineering research and contribute to the nation's overall economic competitiveness and security. 58 00:10:30.270 --> 00:10:35.599 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: The projects should aim to contribute to the larger goal of an educational ecosystem. 59 00:10:35.750 --> 00:10:41.199 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: enabling computational and data-driven science for all scientists and engineers. 60 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:49.440 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: This embraces computation as the 3rd pillar and data-driven science as the 4th pillar of the scientific discovery process. 61 00:10:49.550 --> 00:10:55.460 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: In addition to the traditional 1st and second pillars of theory and experimentation. 62 00:10:56.990 --> 00:11:01.450 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: Next, we'll discuss the solicitation goals, and I'll hand over to my colleague. 63 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:03.690 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: Dr. Shake the floor. 64 00:11:04.780 --> 00:11:09.779 Sheikh Ghafoor: Thank you. So, mister, I I just want to mention one thing that this set of slides 65 00:11:09.850 --> 00:11:15.120 Sheikh Ghafoor: and today's recording would be available in near future within a day or 2 66 00:11:15.220 --> 00:11:23.820 Sheikh Ghafoor: onto the website. Nsf website. So coming back to this cyber training solicitation. 67 00:11:24.160 --> 00:11:30.180 Sheikh Ghafoor: yeah, if we look at the specific goal of this solicitation there are 2. 1 is to 68 00:11:30.310 --> 00:11:47.539 Sheikh Ghafoor: ensure broadening adoption of Ci tools. So Nsf. And other Federal agencies have invested over the time to develop different software infrastructure which we call the Ci tools, libraries, methods, and all of those things. So through this program, we want 69 00:11:47.540 --> 00:12:01.920 Sheikh Ghafoor: the community to broadly adopt this tool to in so the goal of this one of the cyber training goal is to ensure that that happens, and also, the second goal is to 70 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:23.699 Sheikh Ghafoor: like in the disciplines, appropriate discipline. It can be physics, computer science, and other things change the code literacy of that discipline in terms of changing curriculum training, developing materials. So that this appropriate Ci skills goes to this future research workforce. 71 00:12:24.510 --> 00:12:36.559 Sheikh Ghafoor: And and through these, like all Nsf programs. We want to broaden the Ci access access to this advanced cyber infrastructure to underrepresented groups. 72 00:12:36.750 --> 00:12:44.590 Sheikh Ghafoor: And specifically, if you think about cyber training, it. It is looking for innovative and scalable 73 00:12:44.670 --> 00:13:04.420 Sheikh Ghafoor: training, education, curriculum, instructional material development that's at is at the heart of cyber training proposal. So we we are looking for that. So either you provide training, developing curriculum, or combination of both. And this training is targeted for the these 3 Ci communities that 74 00:13:05.363 --> 00:13:12.270 Sheikh Ghafoor: Sharmish has just mentioned the Ci user Ci professional and a Ci contributor. 75 00:13:16.490 --> 00:13:21.013 Sheikh Ghafoor: And and this cyber training is is a Nsf wide 76 00:13:21.400 --> 00:13:22.870 Sheikh Ghafoor: participation. 77 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:32.600 Sheikh Ghafoor: Osc. Is the lead. We manage the program. But out of size directorate. Other division, like Ccf. Cns Iis. 78 00:13:32.750 --> 00:14:01.090 Sheikh Ghafoor: they participate. They co-fund things because the cyber training is for the future research workforce, and they come from all. For example, engineering is there. We see our colleague Riha from engineering is present here. Geoscience, education, math and physical science, social and behavioral divisions. They also participates because it benefits all the constituent of all the directors of 79 00:14:01.100 --> 00:14:02.689 Sheikh Ghafoor: in a cif 80 00:14:03.650 --> 00:14:05.269 Sheikh Ghafoor: next slide, Summista. 81 00:14:05.770 --> 00:14:12.949 Sheikh Ghafoor: So let's get to the heart of this proposal. So we support through this proposal. We support 3 types of projects, the pilot. 82 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:14.269 Sheikh Ghafoor: the small one 83 00:14:14.300 --> 00:14:16.600 Sheikh Ghafoor: small implementation and medium. 84 00:14:17.100 --> 00:14:32.109 Sheikh Ghafoor: and the pilot is for 2 years period up to 300 $1,000. Small implementation can be up to 4 years. $500,000 and medium implementation is up to 4 years, 1 million dollar. 85 00:14:32.350 --> 00:14:42.689 Sheikh Ghafoor: And these projects. When you write this proposal, this project should address this 6 sort of key things. So your proposal 86 00:14:43.070 --> 00:14:50.125 Sheikh Ghafoor: should identify the challenge in the research workforce development that you are going to address right? So that's 1 of the key things that 87 00:14:51.150 --> 00:14:52.480 Sheikh Ghafoor: and then 88 00:14:52.560 --> 00:15:15.209 Sheikh Ghafoor: it should the goal. 2 goal that I have mentioned. It should address one or both, at least one that whether you are broadening the adoption of a Ci tool, or you are doing the training, curriculum and development and all of those things so, and it can do both. And in some cases these bigger proposals, like the medium one, address both. 89 00:15:15.230 --> 00:15:26.470 Sheikh Ghafoor: and in terms of training we expect, or you can leverage. Use the access resources more about this within a next couple of slides. 90 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:31.130 Sheikh Ghafoor: so that have a lot of existing training material. And 91 00:15:31.160 --> 00:15:39.039 Sheikh Ghafoor: what you develop as part of the project, you can also contribute to the excess mechanism. Your project should be 92 00:15:39.460 --> 00:15:58.580 Sheikh Ghafoor: scalable. Your project should, when you are doing it, it may be. You are doing it at New York Institute or a couple of Institute, but it should be scale in terms of other institution, bigger participant, and should at like all other Nsf proposals, sustain itself. This training programs, or 93 00:15:58.660 --> 00:16:02.150 Sheikh Ghafoor: the proposal that you are submitting. 94 00:16:02.630 --> 00:16:08.920 Sheikh Ghafoor: and your proposal should address the recruitment because it is a training the targets at Ci user 95 00:16:09.991 --> 00:16:13.050 Sheikh Ghafoor: Ca, professional. So how you 96 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:15.960 Sheikh Ghafoor: plan to recruit those 97 00:16:16.140 --> 00:16:20.899 Sheikh Ghafoor: participants which you are targeting and how you are going to evaluate 98 00:16:20.980 --> 00:16:26.060 Sheikh Ghafoor: your project when it is complete or it is ongoing. That's a key 99 00:16:26.340 --> 00:16:37.349 Sheikh Ghafoor: things. And through all these activities, what we are looking for, that's kind of innovative ideas which would have a collective impact on the community. 100 00:16:37.570 --> 00:16:40.840 Sheikh Ghafoor: And for the building 101 00:16:41.030 --> 00:16:47.990 Sheikh Ghafoor: a larger, suitable community for Ci research, future Ci research workforce. 102 00:16:48.090 --> 00:17:03.060 Sheikh Ghafoor: So all these criteria, not all proposal classes of proposal have to address those. For example, Pilot must address number one and 2 in addition, it can address some more, but one and 2 must be addressed in case of small 103 00:17:03.180 --> 00:17:07.734 Sheikh Ghafoor: one through 5. Your project proposal should address, and for 104 00:17:08.300 --> 00:17:14.940 Sheikh Ghafoor: implementation medium, which is the largest class of proposal in cyber training should address all 6 of them 105 00:17:16.050 --> 00:17:17.210 Sheikh Ghafoor: next slide. 106 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:22.479 Sheikh Ghafoor: So I I mentioned about access. So there are 107 00:17:22.510 --> 00:17:25.780 Sheikh Ghafoor: certain resources, several resources available 108 00:17:26.510 --> 00:17:30.650 Sheikh Ghafoor: for your project to execute. So one of those is access. 109 00:17:31.180 --> 00:17:47.029 Sheikh Ghafoor: That's that Nsf has invested in bigger cyber infrastructure. And they have a lot of training material. So you can use access as part of your project. You can use clouds for providing training and others, and you can use Cloud Bank 110 00:17:47.380 --> 00:18:03.509 Sheikh Ghafoor: and that high throughput computing resources. So if you want to know more about those you can contact one of those cognizant program officer or the links are provided here that provides information. So these are the resources that are available to leverage for your project 111 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:05.270 Sheikh Ghafoor: next slides. 112 00:18:05.670 --> 00:18:08.380 Sheikh Ghafoor: These are some more detail about access. 113 00:18:08.460 --> 00:18:23.419 Sheikh Ghafoor: These are the big cyber infrastructure distributed over the country where it you can apply for allocation small allocation, bigger allocation to for training, purpose, or hosting your material purpose things of that sort. So there are a little more information 114 00:18:24.620 --> 00:18:25.779 Sheikh Ghafoor: next one. 115 00:18:27.080 --> 00:18:30.999 Sheikh Ghafoor: So so, mister, mentioned about this near. 116 00:18:31.120 --> 00:18:34.840 Sheikh Ghafoor: and I will hand it over to our colleague Marlon. 117 00:18:34.980 --> 00:18:38.099 Sheikh Ghafoor: to take it from here for the rest of the slides. 118 00:18:39.060 --> 00:18:40.259 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Great. Thank you. Shake 119 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:41.370 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): so 120 00:18:42.020 --> 00:18:42.790 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): well. 121 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:48.139 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): National artificial intelligence, research, resource, pilot or near pilot, is 122 00:18:48.460 --> 00:18:55.890 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): another resource or source of resources for you to get access to computing and potentially other things that you might need to conduct your 123 00:18:56.370 --> 00:18:58.620 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): cyber training or other research. 124 00:18:59.030 --> 00:19:01.200 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So these 125 00:19:01.756 --> 00:19:05.550 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): resource requests. So these are not funding requests. These are time on 126 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:09.620 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): computing resources and so forth. They have to be 127 00:19:09.760 --> 00:19:12.550 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): specifically for AI research. 128 00:19:13.168 --> 00:19:19.589 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So some of the resources are things that are also available through access, but near is not just a 129 00:19:19.780 --> 00:19:22.440 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): not just an Nsf initiative. It's a 130 00:19:22.650 --> 00:19:27.209 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): multi-agency initiative. So there are other resources such as DOE 131 00:19:27.987 --> 00:19:32.692 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): computing resources available through Nair, and then also their Mini 132 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:38.179 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): commercial sector partners who are also contributing resources to near 133 00:19:38.250 --> 00:19:40.460 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): commercial cloud vendors. People like that. 134 00:19:40.590 --> 00:19:42.600 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So you should definitely 135 00:19:42.900 --> 00:19:45.390 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): look at that. You don't have to have that done 136 00:19:45.500 --> 00:19:48.839 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): for your proposal. But if you get funded, or if you 137 00:19:49.020 --> 00:19:52.540 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): are seeing a need for this. Anyway, you can go ahead and apply. 138 00:19:52.860 --> 00:19:54.739 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): And so there is also. 139 00:19:56.457 --> 00:20:00.199 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): As Jen put it, Jenny put in the chat. Here there is a 140 00:20:00.370 --> 00:20:01.609 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): a Dcl 141 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:11.570 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): 24 dash, 1 0, 9 that's related to this topic. Area. So that has some other opportunities for educators and people wanting to 142 00:20:11.970 --> 00:20:15.040 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): build training and workforce development communities. 143 00:20:15.450 --> 00:20:17.260 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Alright. So next slide, please. 144 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:21.186 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So I'm going to say a few words 145 00:20:21.840 --> 00:20:25.410 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): in general about navigating the Nsf. 146 00:20:25.800 --> 00:20:33.030 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So you can submit your proposal. Your proposals through one of 2 mechanisms. You can go through research.gov, or you can go through grants.gov 147 00:20:33.580 --> 00:20:40.050 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): so if you're unfamiliar with these processes, we highly recommend that you look at the 148 00:20:40.310 --> 00:20:44.459 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): in a set of proposal and award policies and procedure guide or pappg. 149 00:20:44.890 --> 00:20:52.029 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): which has information about submitting proposals and all sorts of other important information that you should know. 150 00:20:52.290 --> 00:20:57.659 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): And then also there's additional application guide for those who go through grants.gov. 151 00:20:58.180 --> 00:20:59.629 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): okay, next slide, please. 152 00:21:01.806 --> 00:21:05.199 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So how do I know if the program is a good fit for my project. 153 00:21:05.780 --> 00:21:09.919 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Usual advice applies. Here, read the solicitation carefully. 154 00:21:10.988 --> 00:21:16.060 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): You can also look at the program page you can find at the bottom 155 00:21:16.330 --> 00:21:22.079 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): a link that will show you other awards that have been made through this program in the past that can take you to abstracts. 156 00:21:22.950 --> 00:21:27.119 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): And you can also always talk to Nsf program officers. 157 00:21:27.630 --> 00:21:35.249 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): We'll probably you know, email is usually the best. We get a lot of inquiries about these programs. So 158 00:21:35.490 --> 00:21:40.259 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): I suggest, we suggest, you prepare a 1 or 2 page, write up in advance 159 00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:41.750 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): and submit that 160 00:21:42.665 --> 00:21:45.919 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): you know, including key questions, contributions, activities 161 00:21:45.950 --> 00:21:50.539 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): as as Shake mentioned earlier, and I'll also say in a few minutes. Here 162 00:21:50.800 --> 00:21:55.800 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): there are solicitation specific as well as general review criteria. So 163 00:21:55.810 --> 00:21:57.730 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): you can say this. 164 00:21:57.910 --> 00:22:04.290 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): A couple of email exchanges by also explaining how you address the solicitation specific criteria. 165 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:09.969 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So you can contact. Yeah. So you can contact us. And we can put that back up later 166 00:22:10.470 --> 00:22:13.869 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): what factors are considered for funding a proposal. 167 00:22:14.380 --> 00:22:16.290 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): As always, it's available funding. 168 00:22:17.030 --> 00:22:19.730 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): and how responsive you are to the solicitation. 169 00:22:20.040 --> 00:22:22.040 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): And we're also, if you're 170 00:22:22.410 --> 00:22:29.040 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): unfamiliar with Nsf. Processes. We will peer review all the proposals on panels, and the panel 171 00:22:29.140 --> 00:22:31.530 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): of your peers will make recommendations 172 00:22:31.740 --> 00:22:33.390 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): about the 173 00:22:33.500 --> 00:22:35.460 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): responsiveness or 174 00:22:36.140 --> 00:22:42.759 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): priority of different proposals, and these will be based on intellectual merit. Broader impacts and solicitation. Specific criteria. 175 00:22:43.400 --> 00:22:45.010 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Next slide, please. 176 00:22:47.717 --> 00:22:56.130 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So all Nsf proposals are reviewed according to 2 criteria, the intellectual merit and broader impacts. 177 00:22:56.300 --> 00:23:00.230 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So you know, we highly encourage you to 178 00:23:01.554 --> 00:23:06.100 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): make this information your responsiveness to these criteria clear. 179 00:23:06.420 --> 00:23:08.460 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): so that reviewers 180 00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:15.239 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): will not have to struggle to. To answer these questions. You should make this clear yourself. 181 00:23:15.868 --> 00:23:20.459 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So intellectual merit is the potential of the proposal to advance knowledge and understanding 182 00:23:20.770 --> 00:23:26.259 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): and broader impacts are the benefits to society or desired societal outcomes. 183 00:23:26.510 --> 00:23:29.190 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): And I also we also recommend that you 184 00:23:29.570 --> 00:23:38.639 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): look in the Nsf website for particular pages that provide guidance on writing good, broader impacts, plans 185 00:23:39.684 --> 00:23:43.810 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): the rest of these build on each other. So you want proposals that are 186 00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:47.580 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): creative, original, potentially transformative. 187 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:55.570 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): But also the plan doesn't just need to be a good idea. It should look like something that's a well organized plan 188 00:23:56.050 --> 00:24:00.550 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): that has a high chance of of being executed successfully 189 00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:04.789 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): coupled with, that is, mechanisms to assess success 190 00:24:04.810 --> 00:24:09.040 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): and perhaps adjust the program or project as needed. 191 00:24:10.309 --> 00:24:15.049 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): And of course you need to be qualified to do the work. So you want to convey your qualifications. 192 00:24:15.070 --> 00:24:19.739 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): And lastly, you need to convey that you have the adequate resources available to you 193 00:24:19.910 --> 00:24:21.909 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): to carry out the proposed work. 194 00:24:22.100 --> 00:24:23.759 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Okay, next slide, please. 195 00:24:25.840 --> 00:24:29.649 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So as shake already said, there are 6 solicitation specific criteria. 196 00:24:29.790 --> 00:24:31.460 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So revere, you know 197 00:24:31.540 --> 00:24:38.670 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): you can. If you read the proposal, you'll see. These are the sections that you should, on the solicitation. These are the proposal sections. 198 00:24:39.120 --> 00:24:46.310 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): but also reviewers, will specifically be asked to comment upon upon all of these as appropriate for your 199 00:24:46.320 --> 00:24:47.680 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): draft proposal. 200 00:24:47.820 --> 00:24:50.089 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So the 1st 2 apply to pilots. 201 00:24:50.630 --> 00:24:56.579 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So what's the rationale? You know? Why, what's the problem you're trying to solve? And then to shake already said. 202 00:24:56.930 --> 00:25:02.760 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): fair amount about this. What are the target areas for your for your proposal? 203 00:25:03.370 --> 00:25:11.709 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): 3 is the potential for scalability and sustainability. So scalability, you know, we don't want to just see proposals that target one university. 204 00:25:11.790 --> 00:25:15.169 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): for example. But we want to see how you're going to scale out 205 00:25:15.390 --> 00:25:19.069 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): and sustainability. You know what happens after your funding ends. You know. 206 00:25:19.330 --> 00:25:27.610 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): How will the outputs of your project carry on after the after the specific project ends? 207 00:25:28.951 --> 00:25:33.129 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): You know, you're gonna need to recruit participants. So how how are you gonna do that? 208 00:25:33.510 --> 00:25:39.310 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): And you know, you might want to say here how you're going to address issues of broadening participation. 209 00:25:39.700 --> 00:25:42.389 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): targeting underrepresented groups, things like that. 210 00:25:43.787 --> 00:25:50.050 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): And then a project evaluation plan. So if you're familiar with other programs like Ru this is 211 00:25:50.120 --> 00:25:55.286 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): somewhat like that, and that you should have an evaluator associated with your project to help you 212 00:25:55.930 --> 00:25:58.270 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): decide if you're achieving your goals or not. 213 00:25:58.700 --> 00:26:03.469 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): 5, the effectiveness of the proposed collective impact. So we should be 214 00:26:04.097 --> 00:26:11.400 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): connecting yourself to other entities. That help you achieve more than your project is going to achieve by itself. 215 00:26:11.630 --> 00:26:16.239 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): And then, 6, th the soundness of the plans for fostering a suitable community. 216 00:26:16.470 --> 00:26:21.980 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So mediums I'm sorry. Small implementations do the 1st 5 217 00:26:22.120 --> 00:26:25.699 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): and medium implementations are going to be judged by all 6 218 00:26:25.860 --> 00:26:27.150 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): next slide, please. 219 00:26:29.930 --> 00:26:32.700 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): What? Not to do. So. 220 00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:39.460 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): you know. Read the solicitation carefully, and and follow the instructions and and guidance there 221 00:26:40.444 --> 00:26:48.469 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): and then, if you have anything that's not covered there, refer to the pappg or Pap G, that I mentioned earlier. 222 00:26:49.670 --> 00:26:53.360 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Remember, of course, we're the National Science Foundation. You're 223 00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:57.639 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): we want to fund things that are going to be 224 00:26:58.110 --> 00:26:59.450 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): well reasoned. 225 00:26:59.630 --> 00:27:00.939 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): they're going to be 226 00:27:01.995 --> 00:27:08.080 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): providing citations or evidence for assertions you make and so forth. You're going to be reviewed by 227 00:27:08.586 --> 00:27:14.990 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): your peers, who are faculty or scientists or other Ci professional practitioners. So 228 00:27:15.100 --> 00:27:18.169 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): remember, those are the people you're going to have to convince. 229 00:27:19.113 --> 00:27:21.617 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): You know. Do a good job writing your 230 00:27:22.250 --> 00:27:30.440 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): writing your project narratives and so forth. So it always helps to have other people take a look at it before you submit. 231 00:27:30.970 --> 00:27:34.990 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Don't spend all of your page limit talking about what you've done in the past. 232 00:27:35.470 --> 00:27:38.538 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): but rather use that as the 233 00:27:39.330 --> 00:27:43.699 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): foundation for explaining what you're going to do under this particular proposed work. 234 00:27:44.370 --> 00:27:49.380 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): and finally, Rwr. Is the dreaded return without review. So don't 235 00:27:51.950 --> 00:27:59.409 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): look at the Rwr criteria within the solicitation the main one is dealing with pi limitations. 236 00:28:00.270 --> 00:28:11.240 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): And so please read that solicit. Read the solicitation and Papbg carefully for things that could have your proposal returned without review. If you have any questions about any of those things. 237 00:28:11.560 --> 00:28:16.259 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): those are things you should ask us, either now or by email later. 238 00:28:16.450 --> 00:28:17.419 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Alright, next slide. 239 00:28:19.350 --> 00:28:21.780 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Okay? So you can put your questions. 240 00:28:22.050 --> 00:28:26.139 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): And in the Q&A section, I think we already have some coming. 241 00:28:27.050 --> 00:28:28.909 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): And you can also email us. 242 00:28:29.040 --> 00:28:30.359 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): But we have a few 243 00:28:30.430 --> 00:28:32.649 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): common questions. I'll go over quickly. 244 00:28:32.760 --> 00:28:34.270 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So let's next slide 245 00:28:37.080 --> 00:28:38.489 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): the question number one. 246 00:28:39.384 --> 00:28:44.540 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Do you have to talk with us before you submit? And the answer is, No, but it's strongly encouraged that you do. 247 00:28:45.060 --> 00:28:50.879 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): and not just with the office of advanced cyber infrastructure, but also with cognitive cognizant program officers 248 00:28:51.270 --> 00:28:53.610 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): potentially from other 249 00:28:53.800 --> 00:28:55.410 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): parts of 250 00:28:55.480 --> 00:29:00.800 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Dennis F. Who might be event might be interested in your cyber training proposal. 251 00:29:01.965 --> 00:29:06.849 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Do this not at the last minute, but at least a month in advance. 252 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:07.989 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Next slide 253 00:29:10.707 --> 00:29:15.090 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): can my project primarily train or retrain for jobs in the It industry 254 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:17.930 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): know the proposal should 255 00:29:18.772 --> 00:29:23.750 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): be relevant to scientific research workforce development and advanced cyber infrastructure. 256 00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:26.299 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): cybersecurity proposals 257 00:29:26.560 --> 00:29:29.449 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): must be relevant to the scientific research workflow. 258 00:29:30.100 --> 00:29:35.099 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): And this relevance will vary from undergraduate to graduate to Ci professionals and across disciplines 259 00:29:35.600 --> 00:29:37.190 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): for your target audience 260 00:29:37.350 --> 00:29:39.120 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): is a search community 261 00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:40.810 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): question number 3. 262 00:29:41.410 --> 00:29:45.780 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Must you already have a small size implementation before seeking a medium. 263 00:29:45.900 --> 00:29:47.480 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): The answer is, no. 264 00:29:48.800 --> 00:29:49.980 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): that's 1 short. 265 00:29:50.180 --> 00:29:59.620 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Okay? So that's all the common questions. So we'll now open up the floor for your Q. And A's. Thank you. 266 00:30:05.410 --> 00:30:07.049 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): I'll answer one here 267 00:30:07.070 --> 00:30:09.490 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): about. Can we volunteer ourselves to be reviewer 268 00:30:11.633 --> 00:30:14.720 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): in case nobody's answered that already somebody may have. 269 00:30:14.970 --> 00:30:18.833 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): But yeah, we encourage everybody listening to this. If you 270 00:30:19.290 --> 00:30:24.309 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): are not planning to submit, you can certainly serve as a reviewer. It's a great way to learn about the program 271 00:30:25.208 --> 00:30:31.690 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): but also, if you submit to one track like pilot, you can all serve as a reviewer on other tracks. 272 00:30:36.170 --> 00:30:36.920 Sheikh Ghafoor: So 273 00:30:37.300 --> 00:30:50.219 Sheikh Ghafoor: I will take another one. There is a question. Could you provide more details about the difference between small and medium project? Specifically, what kind of activities should be included in the 274 00:30:50.470 --> 00:30:54.069 Sheikh Ghafoor: fostering a suitable community section. So 275 00:30:54.410 --> 00:31:02.910 Sheikh Ghafoor: I we cannot tell you exactly directly the what kind of the. But the idea is that when you are implementing a project. 276 00:31:02.940 --> 00:31:04.950 Sheikh Ghafoor: you have to engage 277 00:31:05.190 --> 00:31:29.130 Sheikh Ghafoor: and build a community. So let me give you some example. This may may not be applicable to your product. You are developing training materials, and you are implementing into your classroom, and maybe in another university with your collaborator, right? So you want to foster a community on that. So you want to maybe go try to influence in some say. 278 00:31:29.130 --> 00:31:44.880 Sheikh Ghafoor: if it is a computer science, acm, curriculum, and others, you go participate into Acm's curriculum revision forum. Present, those things have a website or have a faculty development workshop in relevant 279 00:31:45.299 --> 00:32:00.859 Sheikh Ghafoor: conferences where those type of faculties are coming, you are proposing those that means other will know, and they will start communicating, giving you ideas. These are some of the things that you do for fostering and building community. 280 00:32:01.130 --> 00:32:17.729 Sheikh Ghafoor: and and and there can be many other way of doing it, and you have to come up with those that those are required. Not only you are developing and doing a training in a prototype fashion, so that's that would be the in a larger proposal would like to see those more and more 281 00:32:17.890 --> 00:32:30.988 Sheikh Ghafoor: right. You can propose small tutorial training in, for example, in Education Conference, like computer Science and 60 conference or in engineering, has this? 282 00:32:32.250 --> 00:32:58.539 Sheikh Ghafoor: what is the engineering conferences they have? There are training and and tutorial there. So that means you're building community. So those are some examples, not necessarily. You have to follow that, but appropriate to your proposal. You come up with these ideas, and you can come up with innovative ideas that we have not thought about right. There are other ways to foster in community. So that is required for larger proposals. 283 00:33:00.250 --> 00:33:05.610 Sheikh Ghafoor: And Marlon or Reha. Anybody wants to add. I see Lincoln. 284 00:33:09.399 --> 00:33:11.810 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Do we have a new question, so we can move on. 285 00:33:13.220 --> 00:33:14.000 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So 286 00:33:14.110 --> 00:33:23.659 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): yeah, I'll go ahead and read it. Although I think it's going to be answered in piping. So what audiences should the training address? What institutions, age groups so forth. 287 00:33:26.090 --> 00:33:31.002 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): so I'll I'll take a a 1st stab at this one and let my colleagues 288 00:33:31.660 --> 00:33:43.310 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): jump in. But so there's a range of of audiences that you can target. So if you remember, back in the specific review criteria number 2. 289 00:33:44.002 --> 00:33:49.639 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): There are 2 types. One is addressing graduate and undergraduate curriculum development. And then the 290 00:33:49.670 --> 00:33:52.979 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): that that was actually B, and then A for that is 291 00:33:53.010 --> 00:33:58.340 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): addressing the Ci research community, or people who are using Ci 292 00:33:58.650 --> 00:34:00.280 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): cyber infrastructure. 293 00:34:00.310 --> 00:34:03.750 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So you could think of the yeah, here we go. 294 00:34:05.580 --> 00:34:08.810 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): And so there's more detail in the in the solicitation. 295 00:34:10.260 --> 00:34:19.390 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): right? But so these are your target. These are your target communities. Typically so also, Sharmista in the beginning outlined 3 different communities 296 00:34:20.900 --> 00:34:23.820 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Ci users, Ci developers. 297 00:34:25.820 --> 00:34:28.599 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Yeah. So basically, you know, those. So. 298 00:34:30.282 --> 00:34:34.380 Sheikh Ghafoor: User, Ca, professional and Ca, contributor. 299 00:34:34.750 --> 00:34:40.440 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): So you can, you can target cyber training proposal around, you can build it around one or more of these groups. 300 00:34:45.110 --> 00:34:47.079 Tom Gulbransen: If I might add. 301 00:34:47.620 --> 00:34:49.159 Tom Gulbransen: the recruiting 302 00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.879 Tom Gulbransen: aspect of how some proposals will be reviewed 303 00:34:53.800 --> 00:35:06.390 Tom Gulbransen: is another part of how the proposals will be reviewed, and of course recruiting reflects where you think there's a need to pull trainees from or to, you know, in. 304 00:35:06.540 --> 00:35:11.950 Tom Gulbransen: Bring more people into this skill base. So to some degree. 305 00:35:12.120 --> 00:35:17.000 Tom Gulbransen: it's up to the proposers to decide where might there be a need to 306 00:35:17.806 --> 00:35:24.190 Tom Gulbransen: achieve better representation, better, better engagement in communities that might not have that 307 00:35:25.740 --> 00:35:26.950 Tom Gulbransen: thus far. 308 00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:41.009 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): For misty. You were going to answer that one, and I I think we stole your thunder. Do you want? Do you have anything else to say. 309 00:35:42.520 --> 00:35:47.630 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: Oh, no, that's why I showed the slides, and no, no, you you did, you know very well, thank you. 310 00:35:49.150 --> 00:36:05.079 Tom Gulbransen: Could. Could we revisit one of the questions that was raised and answered? I'm not sure if the answers went out publicly, it had to do with the evaluation plan, and where an evaluation plan might be appropriate to address or not. And 311 00:36:05.500 --> 00:36:08.970 Tom Gulbransen: the solicitation specific criteria. Note that it 312 00:36:09.030 --> 00:36:10.170 Tom Gulbransen: does it not? 313 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:13.200 Tom Gulbransen: I'm required to be part of the pilot. 314 00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:14.520 Tom Gulbransen: so could we. 315 00:36:14.670 --> 00:36:17.030 Tom Gulbransen: Could we anticipate 316 00:36:17.060 --> 00:36:22.854 Tom Gulbransen: the effective evaluation plan was included, even if the the pilot didn't have to do that. Would that be 317 00:36:25.010 --> 00:36:26.510 Tom Gulbransen: an issue, or. 318 00:36:28.200 --> 00:36:28.980 Sheikh Ghafoor: So. 319 00:36:30.820 --> 00:36:38.049 Sheikh Ghafoor: it is not required. According to the solicitation, however, having an evaluation plan, sometimes makes the proposal better. 320 00:36:38.740 --> 00:36:59.029 Sheikh Ghafoor: So in my previous life. I was part of one of the pilot project, and we did have an evaluation plan. But this is not a because pilot is your implementing or experimenting in your own own institution, so you may want to do some evaluation. It may write about that, but evaluation plan is not 321 00:36:59.210 --> 00:37:07.760 Sheikh Ghafoor: required, and if you, it doesn't also have to be as rigorous in my interpretation is as it is required for small 322 00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:11.829 Sheikh Ghafoor: and medium. As for the small and medium, it is required. 323 00:37:12.500 --> 00:37:16.860 Sheikh Ghafoor: You have to have an evaluation plan for your project. 324 00:37:19.860 --> 00:37:20.540 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): I could. 325 00:37:21.020 --> 00:37:23.070 Sheikh Ghafoor: Any other comment from my colleagues. 326 00:37:23.070 --> 00:37:26.510 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): I I could add an opinion there, I think pilots are. 327 00:37:26.670 --> 00:37:27.510 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): you know. 328 00:37:28.020 --> 00:37:31.519 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): maybe a precursor to going after a larger implementation 329 00:37:31.630 --> 00:37:39.836 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): award. If if that's what you think you would like to do, then, you know, you do have a limited budget, but having some evaluation, can really help 330 00:37:40.510 --> 00:37:43.970 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): help you make that next step to an implementation level 331 00:37:44.520 --> 00:37:47.660 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): award. So we have a good question. 332 00:37:49.350 --> 00:37:52.007 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Actually, I think somebody else already answered it. 333 00:37:53.130 --> 00:37:55.752 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): A good question. We'll chat about. 334 00:37:56.190 --> 00:38:03.880 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: Yeah, my yeah, Marlon, you can go ahead and answer that. I give a short answer, but you can feel free to address that the one about the 335 00:38:04.100 --> 00:38:05.919 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: contacting a directorate. 336 00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:06.530 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Yeah. 337 00:38:07.021 --> 00:38:16.030 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): yeah, we we do. So you you are encouraged to submit proposals that are relevant. Not just the office of advanced cyber infrastructure, but other 338 00:38:16.874 --> 00:38:22.050 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): parts of the Unsf other divisions. So we have a couple of our fellow program officers 339 00:38:22.865 --> 00:38:30.544 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): from other divisions here. We welcome those types of submissions. We'd recommend. Probably you contact us at once together. 340 00:38:31.973 --> 00:38:37.639 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): and so if you're going to do that, if you're going to do a cmmi plus oac proposal, for example. 341 00:38:37.820 --> 00:38:43.052 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): then you need to have somebody who's a cyber infrastructure specialist, and then somebody who's a 342 00:38:43.490 --> 00:38:47.639 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): on your team. Who's the engineering? The cmmi domain expert? 343 00:38:48.446 --> 00:38:50.473 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): For that proposal? So 344 00:38:51.930 --> 00:38:58.299 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): you mentioned specifically in the question. Geo, yeah. So you'd want to have a Geo expert as well. 345 00:39:00.430 --> 00:39:01.880 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): you would say the 346 00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:04.420 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): for co-funding. 347 00:39:04.770 --> 00:39:05.495 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): It's 348 00:39:08.300 --> 00:39:09.983 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): I'll I'll just say it's 349 00:39:12.537 --> 00:39:18.580 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): it's encouraged. But maybe, Cssi, we're a little bit more rigorous about the co-funding requirement. 350 00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:41.529 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: And also I answered a question on international collaborators and travel all those budget information. Please check with Pubg, and if you have, your University has a Sro. They are going to help you. If you can't find answers through your university, then please let us know about 351 00:39:41.570 --> 00:39:45.789 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: very specific budget items, and we will be able to give you 352 00:39:45.810 --> 00:39:46.960 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: an answer. 353 00:39:56.460 --> 00:39:57.730 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): Another question 354 00:40:01.620 --> 00:40:05.939 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): is there any specific information on how many total awards will be given in each category? 355 00:40:07.230 --> 00:40:08.410 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): There's some 356 00:40:09.120 --> 00:40:13.818 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): information in in the solicitation about how many expected awards. But that's 357 00:40:14.700 --> 00:40:16.670 Marlon Pierce (NSF CISE/OAC): That's our our guidance. 358 00:40:25.020 --> 00:40:29.080 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: Okay. I am not seeing any more questions. 359 00:40:32.300 --> 00:40:43.880 Sheikh Ghafoor: And just to add, if you have questions in future, and you know the cognizant program officer names are in the program page. You can write to us. So it may. While you are just writing the program 360 00:40:44.473 --> 00:40:47.559 Sheikh Ghafoor: pro proposal, you may come up with questions. 361 00:40:49.930 --> 00:40:55.009 Wen-Wen Tung (NSF): There's a new question for pilot grants. Do we need preliminary experiments 362 00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:57.669 Wen-Wen Tung (NSF): which panelists would like to reply. 363 00:40:58.710 --> 00:41:04.009 Sheikh Ghafoor: So I can take that. No, you don't need preliminary experiments. 364 00:41:04.590 --> 00:41:15.589 Sheikh Ghafoor: So it it's not a required. If you have some preliminary experience experiments. That's okay. But it's for any class of proposal. It's not a requirement. 365 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:19.505 Sheikh Ghafoor: You have to have a convincing story, right? Well, reasons 366 00:41:19.970 --> 00:41:24.970 Sheikh Ghafoor: that that the reviewer that responds to the solicitation criteria. 367 00:41:25.980 --> 00:41:31.809 Sheikh Ghafoor: and that convinces the reviewers that it is a good proposal. It will achieve the program goal. 368 00:41:47.200 --> 00:41:50.989 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: No, we have time. So if you have questions, please post 369 00:41:52.530 --> 00:41:56.040 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: or we will. We look forward to hearing from you 370 00:41:56.420 --> 00:42:09.860 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: and receiving your proposals. And please, definitely, if you're interested in serving as reviewers for us, please let us know. You can just email one of us. Our emails are on the solicitation page. 371 00:42:10.050 --> 00:42:11.690 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: We have one more question. 372 00:42:11.940 --> 00:42:14.539 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: Thank you. Thank you very much for attending 373 00:42:20.050 --> 00:42:24.120 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: alright. So I think. Thank you, Edgar, for 374 00:42:24.260 --> 00:42:26.670 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: helping us. I think we are done. 375 00:42:27.540 --> 00:42:29.999 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: What do you think? Everyone who should be. 376 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.729 Sheikh Ghafoor: Yeah, I think everything is done. 377 00:42:32.810 --> 00:42:33.950 Sheikh Ghafoor: Yes. 378 00:42:33.950 --> 00:42:34.859 Sharmistha Bagchi-Sen: Thank you.